(D.): Completely normal.
(G.V.): Completely normal? And when she is out of the crisis, there’s no problem?
(D.): No, none whatsoever. The interpretation my father has given here, for example, that seminars and lectures concerning the world coming to an end because of nuclear armament or similar topics are at the root of my mother’s problem, I cannot really support. I do not believe that these things are the cause of my mother’s illness. I think it’s only an expression of my father’s aversion to the fact that my mother is doing some different things. They never go anywhere together, almost never. I said earlier on that my mother was a good listener. Of course, when she is approaching an acute phase, she is no longer a good listener. She just sort of overflows at that point and becomes very self-involved. Another thing: despite my mother’s problems, she has managed to develop her self-esteem and she now has a high regard for her own ability. I’ve seen her become, if you like, emancipated. I would also like to say that we, the daughters, have undergone the same sort of problems that my mother has experienced with our father’s jealousy. My father wishes that their marriage was just like it always was in the past. But I’m sure if you were to ask my mother her opinion she’d say, “What a terrible thing that would be!”
(G.V.): Thank you. Please ask your mother to come inside, (patient enters) How do you deal with your marriage, what do you think of it?
(F.P.): Marriage in general, or my marriage?
(G.V.): Your marriage over the last years.
(F.P.): Our marriage is ruled by suspicion.
(G.V.): Have you suffered a lot because of this?
(F.P.): Certainly.
(G.V.): When you married, did you marry your husband because you were in love with him?
(F.P.): No, we had to get married at the time; that’s why I mar-ried my husband.
(G.V.): Why did you have to, because you were pregnant?