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The Celle Seminars – Page 56

(G.V.): How many years ago was this?
(F.P.): The first time was in 1981. At that time, my husband said to our children, “What’s going on with mommy at the moment; you wouldn’t understand now. You will only understand it later on when you are older.”
(G.V.): Your feelings about your husband’s ideas- are these based on reality, or are they fabricated? Has your husband actually said that this is what he thinks is happening to you, or did you just assume that this is what he meant?
(F.P.): Judging from the material that my husband has occupied himself with over the years, and also from the way he sees illness or the way he assesses people, I assume that he, at least in part, judged me in a similar fashion.
(G.V.): But has your husband ever actually said that this is what he thought was happening to you?
(F.P.): No, never; it’s implied in the interpretation my husband put on my illness. When he said to our children, “You cannot understand what is happening to mommy now,” what he really meant was that they wouldn’t be able to understand for a long time. That is a problem.
(G.V.): What is your opinion of this statement? (addresses husband)(H.): In regard to the children, it’s quite difficult to describe the symptoms of an illness, for example, why a person suffers, why he hurts. When it comes to children, you cannot really tell them or explain to them the spiritual or mental variants of illness. It is very difficult to explain mental illness to children because they haven’t the insight that would enable them to comprehend what is going on. That is why I said to my children: “Now, at this time of your life, you cannot understand what is happening.” My reason for saying this was quite different from my wife’s interpretation of my motives.
(G.V.): What do you think about this issue? (addresses daughter) (D.): The conflicts between my parents have always been hid-den from us children. Of course, children always pick up on trouble; and even if they don’t know exactly what is happening,