(H.): This is not true. Perhaps I can try and correct this view. I believe that in the event that man can no longer exercise his influence, Christ must intervene to improve the condition of the whole. Faced with such a situation – where you are witness to such a terrible thing like someone lying on the floor, beating the ground with her fist while saying, “I’m there already” meaning hell – you really have to ask yourself, is it possible that extrane-ous influences are at work trying to instill fear? In short, is their method of interfering with the individual accomplished through the process of fear?
(D.): I would like to add that this view has been served to my mother, in the form of bedtime reading, for years.
(G.V.): You are obviously a very religious man. Have you ever preached your beliefs to others?
(H.): In the course of my own religious studies, I have had to deal with these problems. I emphatically reject the notion, as my daughter has just suggested, that I fed my wife literature on demonic possession as bedtime reading.
(G.V.): Is it true that you are very jealous of your wife?
(H.): This used to be more the case than it is now. My jealousy is based on a number of factors, for example, there is a significant age difference between my wife and myself. I think that when the children no longer really needed her in the family, she began to feel a vacuum. She defined it as the feeling of “the ceiling is going to come down on me at home.” And this probably produced in me a sort of panic. I wondered what was going on. What short-comings does my wife see in me? How does she perceive things at present? She went back to old interests, things that were not connected with our home. Today I can see that the activities she took up then were purely social, simply acts of Christianity towards her neighbor, as it is expressed in literature. However, in the beginning I saw this as a panic situation: my wife was making every attempt to detach herself from me and move on. You must consider this situation when you look at all the things that have been touched on earlier.