(F.P.): Earlier on, when I was shaking, I was trying to control myself, but not now.
(G.V.): Are you calmer now?
(F.P.): Yes.
(G.V.): I don’t want to control you, you can act naturally. There is no reason to be afraid.
(F.P.): I understand, but of course the strange atmosphere makes it difficult to act naturally at first.
(G.V.): We are talking about fears. Do you have any particular fears, like fear of the dark or fear of being alone in the house, fear of animals, fear of high places, fear of diseases?
(F.P.): I sometimes think about my illness, but whether those are fears in the sense that you mean, I don’t know. I’m not sure if this is fear, but I just retired from my job and this meant that I had to rearrange my everyday life. I am not sure how things are going to go in the future. I don’t really know if this is a fear in the sense that you mean.
(G.V.): Are you anxious about your future?
(F.P.): It’s the unknown future.
(G.V.): When you are having an asthma crisis, is there a position in which you feel better or worse?
(F.P.): When I’m sitting down, like I am now, I feel better.
(G.V.): You mean bent forward?
(F.P.): Yes.
(G.V.): Do you have to get up from bed and sit on the edge? Do these attacks come at a particular hour? I would like you to talk about it, describe a little more.
(F.P.): For example, during the night it can happen that I have a dry cough; it may go on for so long that the bronchi go into spasm and I become short of breath. I then have to sit up on the bed and try and breathe deeply. At this point, I use the inhalator.
(G.V.): Now you are assuming a position as though you were under examination. Forget it, act naturally. I feel that you are criticizing yourself all the time. You are not talking from your heart, you are talking from your mind – rationally – and we don’t want that. Do you accept this?