Interview with Alexandra Nistoroiu - Journal Viata Medicala (Romania)
8 May 2015
A.N: Hi, this is Alexandra Nistoroiu for the internet
G.V: Yes Alexandra
A.N: Can we speak right now? Is it ok for you?
G.V: Yes, we can speak right now
A.N: Great! So, I know that today you are given the award for Doctor Honoris Causa at Cluj..
G.V: Yes, at Cluj Medical faculty
A.N: Exactly, can you tell me about your collaboration with the University in Cluj?
G.V: Well, there is actually a proposition to collaborate and we have started a course in the department of Neurology and I hope this will eventually continue to become more permanent collaboration.
A.N: You are talking about the course that started today?
G.V: Yes, correct
A.N: So, it’s a course on Homeopathy?
G.V: Homeopathy, yes, Homeopathic Medicine, Classical Homeopathy(if you want more specifically to write). Classical Homeopathy is according to the German Doctor Samuel Hahnemann.
A.N: What does this mean exactly? What does Classical Homeopathy mean?
G.V: Classical Homeopathy is to distinguish between the original Homeopathy, what Hahnemann himself wrote and taught and between other kinds of Homeopathy, so call Homeopathy, that are the ideas of different persons they have about Homeopathy, because there are a lot of distortions and false Homeopathy, which is going on and people are confused. The correct Homeopathy is the one that takes a full case and tries to find the individual remedy for each individual.
A.N: So, for each individual there is a remedy?
G.V: There is a remedy for each individual that has to be discovered by taking information from the patient and also trying to find the similar remedy, the remedy that will feat that particular person, not the particular disease he has, but the person as a whole, and means taking to consideration the mental, the emotional and the physical symptomatology.
A person may have asthma that at the same time he may have anxiety or he may have depression or he may have fears or he may have dysfunction, all these are taken together in order to find the correct remedy that fits that particular person with his peculiarities in his symptomatology.
A.N: Can you find a single remedy that can tackle all that?
G.V: Yes, exactly this is what we call Classical Homeopathy and this is what brings about real results. The Homeopathy in which they give several remedies together with hope that one of them will be the correct one, is not the correct Homeopathy, it’s easier of course and the doctor does not have to work very hard, because it’s prescribed according to the pathology-you have headaches you take the headache mixture, you have asthma you take the asthma mixture-but this is not the correct Homeopathy, it is a distortion of Homeopathy.
So, the Cluj University Medical School wanted to follow and to collaborate with the International Academy of Classical Homeopathy of which I am the General Director and follow the correct way which has real results.
A.N: So, in Homeopathy you have one patient and one remedy, what does this remedy consist of? Is it like a medicine? How does it differ from a medicine?
G.V: It’s different because it consist from simple substances, it can be a herb, it can be one mineral or it can come from certain animals, especially snakes, which are extremely diluted and potentised, as we call it, so the remedy when it is so diluted and so potentised through a process and when it’s correct, it will bring about in the beginning a kind of aggravation of the symptoms which we call it a healing crisis and eventually the person will feel well and without any side effects.
A.N: So, can this principle be applied to all diseases?
G.V: Yes, the principle can apply to all diseases, but it must be very clear that Homeopathy cannot cure all diseases. Homeopathy can cure chronic conditions but in their beginning stages. When the pathology has progressed far too much, in which case of course the Conventional Medicine should be applied.
A.N: So, what would be the relationship between Homeopathy and Conventional Medicine?
G.V: (Yes, that’s a good question) The relation is that Homeopathic Medicine will be needed in the beginning stages of chronic diseases where Conventional Medicine has nothing to do, the disease is not yet fully expressed and can be reversed. So, Homeopathy will be a complementary medicine to the Conventional Medicine.
A.N: But if you use Homeopathy in all these stages by cure the disease or just to?
G.V: Yes, when you use it correctly, when you find the real remedy, the correct remedy for the individual, there is like a reset of the organism and the whole person feels back in balance without the symptomatology which indicated that the person was going towards a severe chronic condition.
A.N: Can you give me an example what sort of diseases were treated that way?
G.V: Yes, well, diseases.. for instance: allergic conditions, high fever, asthmatic conditions in their beginning before there is a damage to the lungs, all respiratory acute diseases, it can be indicated in diseases of the digestive system where there is gastritis, colitis, spastic colitis, even ulcerative colitis in the beginning stages.
It will be even indicated in the beginning stages of neuromuscular diseases like multiple sclerosis, in the very beginning, it will be life saving because the organism comes back to normal and the disease does not progress in making damages in the plaques and permanent kind of damages.
It will be indicated also very much in psychological conditions, where you have anxiety, panic attacks, depression, fears of different kinds, but it will not be indicated for instance in schizophrenia or schizophrenic paranoia or heavy mental disorders, so that type.
A.N: So, where all of these cases that you are speaking about have they been documented or there are studies how Homeopathy deals with this sort of diseases?
G.V: Yes, they have been documented and if you like we can sent you all the research that has been going on, all the positive research.
The problem is to make a correct research, because if you give in a research one remedy to cure one pathological condition, such a research(a double-blind study as we call it), such a study will be negative, because one remedy cannot cure all the cases.
But if we make experiments, where in each case the individual remedy is prescribed, then the result is really amazing.
The problem is that Conventional Medicine gives a drug for a pathology, for a disease, and they check this through a double-blind study. This similar thing cannot be asked for Homeopathy, because each case in order to have an effect needs its own individual remedy.
A.N: How does the specialist know what individual remedy has to prescribe to someone?
G.V: Well, this is the essence of the study of a doctor in order to be able to discern, to discriminate, to differentiate one remedy from another for a particular case.
Another example: you have 2 cases with cluster headaches, the one will need a remedy, the other one will need another remedy, depended also on the depth of the case, the one case will be cured very easily, perhaps with one remedy, the next case due to the fact that is a much deeper condition will require a longer period and more than one remedy, not all together but giving one remedy then it’s complimentary, then again another one and maybe a treatment in 2 or 3 years may be needed for a case, especially in cases which are already quite progressed in time.
There is a time for Homeopathy, you see, and this is important to stress, Homeopathy has its best results when the patient comes with the first symptoms of his mental or emotional or physical pathology. For instance: a person starts having diabetes, it is good to consult a Homeopath at the very beginning, starts having cluster headaches, it is good within 3-4-5 months to consult with a good Homeopath. The problem is and we have discuss this within university is to produce really knowledgeable doctors who will be able to find the correct remedy with the correct procedure which will learn in the university.
A.N: So, going back to the example that you gave me with the cluster headaches, how many different remedies can this particular disease or condition have, like.. you said that one criteria is how deep is the condition.
A.N: But that is criteria also depend on the pathology, not on the individual, what other criteria should you have in mind as a specialist when you prescribe a remedy?
G.V: Ok, I will give you an example: let us say a person starts having cluster headaches, quiet frequently (once every 10 days, once a week etc.). If he comes to a Homeopath the first months of this beginning stage, usually such a condition does not manifest out of the blue, manifest after some kind of stress on the mental, on the emotional or the physical body. So, if they come early and the Homeopath knows what he is doing, maybe with 1 remedy the organism will reset(as we call it), the immune system will come to its best condition and the cluster headaches will stop.
If this person waits, first takes painkillers and then more stronger drugs etc. and the whole thing is using them for years and the condition has become quiet deep, such a person, such a patient may need 2 or 3 years of treatment before he is relieved from his headaches.
A.N: During the homeopathic treatment, is one also able to take Classical Medicine?
G.V: Well, that is good question. You see, the idea is that an organism must be left free of drugs in order to express the symptoms of the disease, because these symptoms are exactly the guiding symptoms on which the Homeopath doctor will base his prescriptions. If a patient takes drugs which mask the symptoms, do not allow the symptoms to manifest in their full expression, then it’s very difficult for a Homeopath to find the remedy.
A.N: So, during that time one should refrain from..
G.V: Yes, exactly, should refrain and this is if she can do it. If the problem is true far gone , the patient will not be able to tolerate for a period of time the headaches without the painkillers and therefore will be very difficult if not impossible to cure it with Homeopathy.
A.N: I know that course you are seeing takes place in the Department of Neurology. What is the relationship between Homeopathy and Neurology?
G.V: Well, as I say there are quiet a lot of neurological disorders..
A.N: Such as?
G.V: One is the cluster headaches that we are talking about, the other is the possibility for beginning stages for multiple sclerosis and in general the neuromuscular disorders if they are tackled immediately with Homeopathy, they will have a big chance of not going further into a deeper pathology..
A.N: Including relative diseases such as Parkinson?
G.V: Parkinson in the very beginning(that’s a good question).. all these are kind of deep disorders which come out of a predisposition. That means the organism is going to manifest one time or another this kind of manifestation of chronic conditions. Now, with Homeopathy we can delay the manifestation of such diseases up to a certain extent.
A person who has a predisposition for having Parkinson, he may have it but not in his 50 or 60 years old but in his 75 or 80 years old. That’s the difference.
A.N: So, it does not cure the disease but you say that it can delay it?
G.V: It can delay it because is the organism becomes older, the defense mechanism becomes weaker and what we do is to work with the defense mechanism.
Every time we strengthen the defense mechanism, but when the defense mechanism is weak because of age, then most probably everybody is going to die, we cannot claim we can stop death (both GV and AN laughing…)
A.N: But you said the patient has to come in the early stages, so he has to come after the disease started manifesting itself.
G.V: Yes, but with the first symptoms, for instance: in multiple sclerosis is the manifestation of diplopia and the manifestation of weakness of one leg.
A.N: So, he has to go to a Homeopath or to a Neurologist?
G.V: He has to go to a Homeopath who is Neurologist or he can be general practitioner who can deal with such beginning stages of diseases if he is knowledgeable in Homeopathy.
The problem is that this kind of Homeopathy I am teaching is very difficult to be mastered by the medical doctors who have spent 10 years in studying Medicine and now they have to learn a new specialty which is quiet demanding for them. So, they are not going to be too many medical doctors who take up the challenge to learn this system. It’s very difficult and requires a doctor who is really dedicated to his patients, to his mission in healing and helping people. He has to be really a special kind of a doctor.
A.N: So, the same person should be also the Neurologist in the particular case of multiple sclerosis..
A.N: He should also be a Neurologist and specialist in Homeopathy..
A.N: But If he is a Neurologist, he has guide or treatment guide for multiple sclerosis..
G.V: Yes, but because… multiple sclerosis is not treated, for instance giving cortisone is not a treatment, is just an amelioration of symptoms, is not that the person is going to remain for another 10 or 15 years without any relapse.
The cortisone maybe will mask the symptoms for a period of time but when the disease will relapse, will appear again, will be in much stronger force and manifestations will be much more severe than the original manifestation, while in Homeopathy the person remains without taking cortisone.
Cortisone also has some side effects as you know, so you think I am avoid it, the idea is to help people as much as possible to live longer as possible a healthy life without depending on strong drugs.
A.N: But isn’t there a conflict here because like I said the Neurologist has treatment guide which he has to follow in neuromuscular diseases..
G.V: There is no conflict, if the Neurologist knows Homeopathy, he can help multiple sclerosis patient to be well for several years without taking any interferon or cortisone or strong medications, it is a gain for the patient and its is a happiness for the doctor who has helped. So, we give a means to the doctor, another tool to deal with chronic diseases.
A.N: But he has to make a choice because..
G.V: He will know when it is the time.. because if after.. multiple sclerosis patient stays well for 10-15 years and then he has a relapse and then he stays well only for 2 more years and then 1 more year, then in the end he can use more strong drugs of Conventional Medicine.
A.N: What exactly does him staying well mean?
G.V: Staying well means living a normal life without depending on any drugs.
A.N: That means free of symptoms and you are saying that we should leave the symptoms be, because the symptoms…
G.V: No, no, you misunderstood.. the symptoms are the efforts of the organism to cure itself.
A.N: Ok, so the symptoms are a way for the body to protect itself and in Homeopathy we aggravate maybe the symptoms for the organism to better protect itself..
G.V: No, no, I will give another example which is more clear. For instance: if you get streptococcal infection, you get high fever, ok?
G.V: The fever is for what? It is the response of the organism , the defense of the organism in order to cure itself, in order to kill the streptococcus or the staphylococcus or whatever is…
G.V: So, this effort that the organism remake and raises the fever to 39.6 but the organism needs 39.9 in order to cure itself, the homeopathic remedy will give this extra energy, will raise the fever a little bit more, so it can reach the point where the staphylococcus will be killed.
In the same way, the initial aggravation(as we call it) shows in all cases that the remedy has acted, it makes the symptoms stronger for 1,2,4 or 5 days and after that comes the amelioration.
A.N: I understand this example, what I don’t understand is how does this apply to diseases such multiple sclerosis or Parkinson
G.V: You have a Parkinson case and you prescribe the correct remedy and you have taken all the symptoms of the person with Parkinson, not only his neurological symptoms but all the symptoms of the organism, whatever are his deviations from health and you give the correct remedy, you may have (let us say) the trembling of the hand for a period of 1 day or 2 days stronger than before and after that the trembling subsided.
A.N: For a longer period of time?
G.V: For a longer period of time, the dopamine and all that.
A.N: But the difference between these 2 examples is that in the first case you haven’t infection and then an immune response..
A.N: But are the symptoms in Parkinson also an immune response in your opinion?
G.V: Yes.. there is an immune response, yes. I may give you another more simple example: let’s take a case with gastritis, every time he eats, after eating has burning in the stomach etc. This burning in the stomach is the response of the immune system in order to cure this imbalance of the organism, happening in the area of the stomach. If you give correct homeopathic remedy, this burning will be much stronger for 1 or 2 days before the person is cured. Such a person may have to take antacid drugs for the rest of his life. But if this person comes to Homeopathy, after a short treatment he stays without symptoms in the stomach.
A.N: Ok, what about the underline cause like in Parkinson or Multiple Sclerosis, what happens to the brain cells loss? Does it continue?
G.V: The brain cells are rejuvenated most probably and..
A.N: What do you mean most probably?
G.V: Most probably means if the remedy is correct, if the organism has enough strength..and where in the cup scan it’s appearing places where there are the plaques, then these plaques disappear.
A.N: So, Homeopathy also helps in Neuroregeneration?
G.V: In a way, there are diseases like Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS), which from their very beginning are very difficult to cure, such diseases like schizophrenia and paranoid schizophrenia as I said before, such diseases which appear with such force, they genetically predispose the persons to get such severe diseases, Homeopathy cannot offer much or nothing at all.
A.N: But in the Neurodegenerative diseases?
G.V: In the beginning yes, they can be regenerated..
A.N: But has this been proven in a certain way? Ok, you can say “we have experimental proves that the patient feels better”, what about the role of Homeopathy in Neuroregeneration, has this been proven?
G.V: Yes.. it has been proven to certain cases that they did well and..
A.N: So how? how exactly? how was it proven? What happens in the brain I mean.
G.V: In the brain there are plaques formed where actually there is a demyelination and this stays for ever. If in the beginning stages there is an inflammation process and there is an edema, the edema.. (now I don’t want to give you a lecture now in Neurology because…)
A.N: No, but you said that it was also proven that Homeopathy..
G.V: It was proven because after the treatment, the cup scan which can be repeated, the plaques do not appear anymore. The clinical picture is much better, the plaques are disappearing, therefore we suppose that the disease has been at least delayed in its development.
A.N: So, we have imagistic proof?
G.V: No, imagistic is the cup scan..(I don’t understand.. you mean images?)
A.N: Ok.. yes, like the scan..
G.V: This will happen in the beginning stages and not when the plaques have been formed again and again. Multiple sclerosis comes into waves, there is a wave and then the organism appears to be balancing and then again there is another wave and relapse (we call) and then the relapse is coming more and more and eventually the person becomes invalid and paralysis. Now, in order to delay this, Homeopathy will be the best treatment in the beginning stages.
G.V’s comment: I’m sure if you review the whole recording that you are doing, I am sure you will be able to… let me ask you something: are you a medical person?
A.N: No I’m not, I work for a medical newspaper.. but from what I know.. there haven’t been any published studies showing that this type of remedies..
G.V: Yes, they have been published and as I said we can ask my secretary to send you all the positive trials which are clinical trials and show the effect of the homeopathic remedy..
A.N: And you also have studies or articles published on this effect that Homeopathy has on Neurogeneration in Multiple Sclerosis?
G.V: No, in order to claim somebody something like that, that is published, that means you have to have double-blind studies which as I said are very difficult to do in Homeopathy, because requires a lot of funding of course, requires deep knowledge of Homeopathy, requires people who are specialists and they have the desire to make such studies and if all these conditions are fulfilled, we hope with the collaboration with the Medical Institutes and Universities, we have eventually all these documented to such an extent as to satisfy even the most skeptics.
A.N: So far the studies that you did publish are more experimental, like case studies?
G.V: Yes.. cases and things like that, yes..
A.N: Ok, I get it.. So, can you tell me a little bit about the course that takes place this week in Cluj, what sort of topics will discuss with the students and doctors attending the course?
G.V: The topics will be the first principles of Homeopathy and also will discuss several remedies that will be needed for the doctors to know in order to help them in cases where the pathology which they examine has similar symptoms with the proofs of these remedies, we have proofs that have been done on healthy individuals..
G.V’s comment: I’m sorry, have you read something about Homeopathy? because your questions.. I understand that you have read something about Homeopathy..correct?
A.N: Yes.. a little bit..
G.V: There is a book which has just been published in Romania, which is called “The levels of health” and will be out on Friday, but there are other books like “The science of Homeopathy” that my assistant Maria will sent you in Romania, so you can become an expert..
A.N: (laughing..) Thank you so much! Great!
G.V: Ok, have a good success and I hope you will write a good article and I hope the article will be accepted by your editor..
A.N: Thank you so much, have a great day and have a great staying in Cluj also!
G.V: Thank you!
G.V: Bye bye!